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Old 20-09-2003, 05:36 AM   #1
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CS Tournament

With a lot of CS clans coming to this LAN
i thought it would be a good idea to get the rules sorted now for the Tournament.
As a lot of you may know i have been quite ill recently and havenít had much time to sort these jobs (which i normally do well before the LAN)

We could do with some help making sure we have the correct rules for CS tournament.
Do you want charges only etc

Looks like there will be at least 10 clans playing (maybe 12)
what we will do is sign your clan up when you get to the LAN, rather than doing it now and finding a clan not turning up.

how many games to play etc
how do you want points to work

Please as much feed back would be gratefully appreciated.
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Old 20-09-2003, 08:48 PM   #2
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max rounds 12 or 15
35 sec c4timer
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no map bugs to be used (eg flashes over walls, boosting, watchin under box on nuke, etc etc )
no nades in knife rounds MICK

etc

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Old 20-09-2003, 09:25 PM   #3
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Tbh, lets all be pr0 and use the cpl game rules
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Old 20-09-2003, 09:52 PM   #4
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Could we have 2 Divs for the CS tournaments for the 3 days.....
break it up and play the winners on the sunday say...

12 teams

div1 6
div2 6

Draw 3 games for each team in each div and the highest 3 from each div go through and play a knockout till only 2 are left, and others play for 3rd place etc..


and use the rules from wedges post as well
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Old 20-09-2003, 11:08 PM   #5
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I would avoid divisions as we have a lot of clans we donít know at the LAN

These tournaments will be for a prizes as well ( I should of said that at start by bad)
so only people in div 1 would get them which wouldnít be fair
(Unless i miss-read that)
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Old 21-09-2003, 12:08 AM   #6
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NO i dont mean as best teams in div 1 i was trying to sort of say just just split up the clans into two separate groups which might be easier to keep the who`s playing who easier... You could have a sort of draw on the friday (which i`ll miss :x) think that`ll be fun and make some ppl cry.... (KONK get your hankies out lads).
But im very happy with whatever you lads decide upon to play cause im just here for the fun and and taken loads of pics for the KONK webby...
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Old 21-09-2003, 12:14 AM   #7
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my bad

cheers for clearing up

how many times will a clan play?
is it just once

at the end of the day we will put up as many servers as needed to keep the tournament going fast
and keep a member of staff on the job to keep things ticking.


please keep the feed back coming in
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Old 21-09-2003, 11:12 AM   #8
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well we could either play knockouts or we could do 2 x groups first and each play each other the top 2 in each go to knockout rounds 1st of group 1 plays 2nd of group 2 etc but if

say...

we got 12 teams thats 2 groups of 6 so thats 15 matches per group say 3 points for win and 1 point for draw

1st and 2nd go into semi's

then play-off's

then final...
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Old 21-09-2003, 12:33 PM   #9
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(not going to play cs, not even a cs player, so a non bias)

* the 2 div' sound a good idea,

one way to do the div's is if you have a
* single round any weapon (teams matched by hat draw, first cs, second t's)
then to give all teams a chance (even the weaker teams).
* put the winners in div 1 and loosers in div 2
have so many rounds per match 15 or so, 2 matches
* one match play ct's, second match play t's ( but not straight after)
* create a timetable
if any team fails to turn up within say 10mins, then it's registered as a lose, other team gets win, make timetable within sensible time, i.e not 4am. if possible give, 30mins between matches.
then do as tuucido says
* 3 points win 1 point draw.
you could then after all matches played.
* put the top 3 of each div together, then repeat.
* the winning team then get the prize.
* the next 2 teams get a little prize, as runners up ( if there is any )

not being a cs player, i can see in a way, that the weaker teams have a better chance of winning,
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Old 21-09-2003, 12:49 PM   #10
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based on the previous 150 lan setup.......

the usual MR12 etc but as soon as a team wins the majority and the other team cant win you stop eg 13-1 - this keep the game short.

we usualy run a league system so everyone plays everyone. Depending on the amount of clan this might be split in to 2 leagues:
1 league system - all play each other then top 2 play each other in grand final and 3rd + 4th play each other for runners up final.
2 league system - all play each other in you league. Top 2 clans from both leages go into a grand final and then 2nd placed clans go into the runners up final.

The problem with 2 leagues is that we could end up with 3 - 4 really good clans in one leage and none in the other league so the finals wont be the actual best skilled (if you follow me).


The finals have previously been....
MR12 and every match is full 24 rounds. Each clan picks 1 map and you play both. Winner is decided on combined score of both. If its a drawn a random picked map out of the normal DE selection will be the decider (picked by an admin out of a hat).


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Azzy, Train, Dust2, Nuke, Prodigy, Inferno
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Old 21-09-2003, 02:04 PM   #11
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League thing sounds good. Even if more higher skilled clans go into one of the groups. The main thing is that if a clan plays poorly they still have a chance of coming second in the group, as their position is not dependant on one game.
The stopping the game after one side has 13 rounds would speed things up too, espeshly as in a league quite a few games would be played.

My two pence worth.

Just gotta find a clan to play in now
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Old 21-09-2003, 11:25 PM   #12
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well thats always the problem...like the world cup (football) they do it the same and sometimes theres 4 really good teams in a league but only 2 can go up...its just drawing teams from a hat some will get lucky others won thats the way it is
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Old 21-09-2003, 11:33 PM   #13
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if we can start early enough we could do a full leage system but it would mean clans playing upto 10 - 12 matches.

The good thing about the league system is we might be able to start on Friday with some of the matches and then add clans which arrive Sat.
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A double elimination knockout tourney probably the simplest tourney to run.

Somone would have to do some rough seedings for the clans tho.
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i dont think u need to seed that clans, get the teams to register on the friday nite when everyones in and settled, then start saturday morning around 11ish, each clan plays each other one/two times for points like a league, win -3, draw 1, top 2 teams when finished play for the final , and 3rd and 4th play the losers final , or you can just do a league.
Be nice if we do the final way to play a CPL map like Fire,

if there is 10/12 clans coming we could do a settup where they play each other 2 times, at the end of the day theres loads of ways lol
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Old 24-09-2003, 02:55 PM   #16
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swap prodigy with cbble imo
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Old 24-09-2003, 04:24 PM   #17
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i concur, prod ****ing sucks
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Lets do the thing that they do on Karate kid!!!

I dont think it'd matter too much to be honest about the times, we got 3 days worth to play?
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