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Old 31-01-2008, 05:39 PM   #1
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DISGRACE!

i dont care if he is unfit, its a meaninless friendly. Beckham should be captain to lead out the boys for the game he deserves. The fact he isnt even playing is a pure insult.
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If it was a major, I would say maybe he should sit out if he was unfit.
But as it's a friendly, and non crucial, I think he should go on.
Who's being capt. then windy?
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Old 31-01-2008, 05:48 PM   #3
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i prey to god he doesnt give it to Owen, but i would guess Gerrard. which is the best choice as Terry is out. Only reason i'm gonna watch it is to hear the fans chanting beckhams name for 90mins. ******* italian!

on another note there are 5 Aston Villa players in the squad, been a long time since that happened
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Im gonna check this thread again if we win, so fickle England fans , winge when we loose, winge about the manager, get a new manager and its great, leave Beckham out and suddenly everyone hates the new manager.
Who cares if Beckhams not being played, Good riddence I say, hes been poor for years, good riddance hes past it, let someone else play, hes not match fit and hasnt played much competative football latley so why should he get a call up?
We need player playing now that will be there for the team in the future and in future tornaments ready to help us do well.
I think the winging here is because people dont like a foriegn manager coming in and changing things.
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Im gonna check this thread again if we win, so fickle England fans , winge when we loose, winge about the manager, get a new manager and its great, leave Beckham out and suddenly everyone hates the new manager.
Who cares if Beckhams not being played, Good riddence I say, hes been poor for years, good riddance hes past it, let someone else play.
I agree, Beckham has been poor for us far too often. AND he cost us possibly our best shot at a major trophy. Cock...

Nice to see some decent players getting call ups for a change and not the usual suspects.
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on another note there are 5 Aston Villa players in the squad, been a long time since that happened
No there arn't.. Stop trying to claim On-Loan players as Villa scum..
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Right, the reason why England are 'shite' is because past managers let too many 'big egos' get their way.

Too much money and too much egotism is the problem. Lets hope Capello can deliver the goods.
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This is the problem with Englands team in the past, players get picked for games because the managers pick the big names over lesser known players that are more hungry for the win and would potentialy play better for the team.
So what if his next game gets him his 100th cap, thats no reason at all to play him.
If he was at the top of his game at the moment playing world class football then ok pick him as he will benefit the team, as it stands he is not and is not what England needs right now.
I say get over it, see how the new manager works out and then comment after 3 - 4 games when we see what hes doing for the team.
Given Cappelos past record im sure the team will benfit from any changes he makes.
I might be wrong but lets let time tell on that one.
So stop winging, hes not even had one game under his belt
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This is the problem with Englands team in the past, players get picked for games because the managers pick the big names over lesser known players that are more hungry for the win and would potentialy play better for the team.
So what if his next game gets him his 100th cap, thats no reason at all to play him.
If he was at the top of his game at the moment playing world class football then ok pick him as he will benefit the team, as it stands he is not and is not what England needs right now.
I say get over it, see how the new manager works out and then comment after 3 - 4 games when we see what hes doing for the team.
Given Cappelos past record im sure the team will benfit from any changes he makes.
I might be wrong but lets let time tell on that one.
So stop winging, hes not even had one game under his belt
QFT, capello has even said that in the future beckham still may get his 100th cap once he is playing regular competitive football. Without friendlies to test out tactics new managers wouldn't stand a ******* chance in qualifiers for world cup/euro so why should they waste a spot that could be used to help the team gel?

It's pissing Geordie syndrome all over again and he's been officially manager for **** all time.
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I think the winging here is because people dont like a foriegn manager coming in and changing things.
QFT TBH.
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i take it i'm the only person in the world thinks we should have an English manager??? or atleast 1 who manages over here at the very worst!

and the fact it is a nothing game means its the perfect op for him to get his 100, which he deserves. then he can step to 1 side for the younger players to come in.

and i think Rooney getting sent off prob ruined our best chance, we were never gonna win anything with hoddle!

Mclaren tried to sort big ego's by dropping him, and it came back to haunt him. If beckham played all qualifers we would be at the euro's now. the game against croatia proved that fact.
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lol i knew as soon as i saw your name you post would have something to do with that. lets make gameon think i'm racist. if thats your motivation in life go for it mate
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It was actually in jest but it does beat making stupid threads screaming "DISGRACE!!!111" about whether Becks gets his 100th cap for England or not. Unless ofc you're a world class football manager in probably the highest profile football job in the world, maybe we should leave the decisions in the hands of the people that actually know what they are doing as opposed to you, who let's be honest, don't have a ******* clue?

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Fact? Fact!? You do know what a fact is don't you? We lost that game btw.
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when he was on the pitch we scored 2 and let in 1 against them. i wholely believe that had he played the full game we would have won. yes its not a fact. and i do also believe that it is a disgrace that he hasnt been given it in a meaningless game like this. hey if you dont like the thread dont read it......
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I'd much prefer an English manager but we don't have many options.

What Capello is doing is stamping his authority on the job. He's doing it his own way and how he thinks it's to be done. I'm really pleased to see he's willing to make big decisions. He's bringing in younger players to give them experience and see how they play. That's what friendlies are for. Why play all regulars? It's silly to do that because what happens when one gets injured? Gamble on hoping someone can fill the gap or have to change the whole system?

Let the guy get through a few games first before saying he's crap. If anything, it's our (England's) own fault for giving it the high-and-mighty all the time, expecting to win everything. We don't have the pool of players that we used to. We've got players that seem to not really care or think we're too good to lose.

As for Beckham, why should he get a 100th cap? If he was really serious about playing for England, he should not have gone to play for some Sunday league team because of the money. Cappello simply can't bow to the wants and needs of the fans, otherwise you end up with a McLaren; too busy pleasing everyone else and in the end pleasing no-one but our opponents.

I think he's been what we've needed for some time. Someone who'll rule with an iron rod and award the shirts to people who not only are good enough to play for the national team but also WANT to play and play with pride and passion. How much harder would players work if they though they'd be dropped to the bench or even off the teamsheet if they knew playing badly would cost them their place? No player should be beyond reproach, whether it be Gerrard, Rooney, Terry or anyone else - that includes David "ya know" Beckham.

New manager, new era. Give him a chance.
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